Polls over, Debate Path, Compromises

:ninds: Allright, the polls came out as follows:

The polls were HIGHLY unrepresentative because only three people voted, and I was not one of them.




Now you all should debate and compromise, the game shall not begin until a reasonable consensus is reached by a majority. All playing, including hopefully Pi, Zombie, Red, AdW, and other users of this forum who want to (I will let you) should represent themselves even if they don't know what to say.

Be specific on how much you dissagree with something and wether you would tolerate it in a compromise or not.

Please not that you will almost certainly get some training on playing by warring with your own race. A LOT.


To start it off, Why do you want or not want to begin as different races? You still would play different races later. I had a slight leaning towards starting on one world to practice interactions between your societies and promote you when anihilated or totally victorious to Basic age (if hume that translates to space-age) societies with a set number of advantages.

So what is wrong about this and what do you want?

I am the GM so I will weigh your opinions as much as if not more than my own on this topic (I will have fun GMing this no matter what play style).

I think that we should start on different planets because how do you explain multiple sentient races on one planet? One planet would be okay if all races are humanoid, but SZ's makes me think we need multiple planets. I think that there should be no prelim round because most people have played it and it it isn't hard to pick up. I still say no mystic energies, but I would be okay with science-based psionics.

i think that we should start off on one planet and not use magicks, the rest i dont care about eithier way

Do you include psionics with magiks?

............but i want voodoo magik..............psionics suck, unless it was mind reading..

psionics could include mind reading, but that might be to unfair of and advantage. Kai? your thoughts on the matter?

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Firstly, Goblin, psionics include and encompass the same magic does, it is just a different style. Psionics is an explanation of many things, including foresight and stuff.

You could say that psionic adepts in your early society are seen as prophets and empowered beings for the power they harness and the things they do.

As I will repeat, the difference between psionics and magic is play style: notably, with magic, many more (and more commonly) can defend from and attack with fleet-decimating balls of plasma made from fallen foes.
Psionics is more likely to involve a covert op and trying to cause a chain reaction of reactor cores in opponents fleets.

Allowing both is a compromise and brings complexity.

Like I said, I would be okay with psionics, but I would prefer to have neither.

.......................K!!! We can do psionics! I like covert ops and making things go boom!

So, gob, the question comes to magi and psionics or just psionics.

For help, see this: magik will bend light for illusion, psionics will toy with the minds of others.
Magik has bigger booms, psionics is more precise. Both use the same force, but in radically different ways.

And, red, these forces are not things you need to concern yourself with if you choose not to use them.

I say..............*Flips coin*...BOTH! i like idea of both big booms and toying with people's minds. And so your pretty much saying magik and psionics are stem from the same source, they are just different categories to name them in.

Well, sorta, cept that there really is no middle ground.

Also, magik comes with more than arcane, I always forget to mention that you can use a third type (attached to magik in voting) that essentially means manipulating the threads and strings of life force to mess with minds, bodies, souls, and whatever.

This lifeforce can make undead, effective curses (as much if not more than psionic-mind tinkering because it changes true nature) and reincarnating foes/units.

An example of this would be the DOOM ex-marines or the Warhammer reincarnating machine undead.

The lifeforce can also be used to make limbs and parts to replace lost ones, a sort of wireframe that is as flesh and flesh replaces.

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Yes. But will it make the gameplay fluid?

Arcane and Lifestream is one package,
Psionics another.

Both have good and different traits.
Which and what is wanted?
Neither?

Also, why not a tutorial round as one race?

Is magik science based (later epochs) or is it innate? I am fine with magik if it is science based but innate magik makes no sense at all.

Magiks, in both forms, are science-based. So is psionics. The only thing unscientific about them is how lower societies immeadiatly seem to make assumptions about those empowered by them.


These things would be of little worth in this if they weren't science-based.

That was what I was wondering about...adwuss was going on about magik at the start.

MORE OPINIONS WANTED. COME ON GUYS!!!

If magik/psionics is science based, I am fine with it...but I have already said that. you might consider adding a link to this thread in you sig, Kai.

Or I could...

Hey, if no one posts in this besides us (and Gob, please post more!) in 24 hours I will put an annoying BD ad/mesage up. Eatit. Or rather, don't, computers are not safe for consumption by humans.

I'll have my goats eatit then

Good, and the message is up. And I have minions. Good. Still, users say and comment things HERE IN THIS THREAD